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EP. 09 · MASHUP26 August 202621 min

Nobody knows what to pay anymore: a Building Tech Teams best-of

I'm now managing a team of agents. My productivity is 10x. What should I be paid?

Five guests from the first eight episodes · Nathan Hill (AWS), Adam Witanowski, Claudia Barriga-Larriviere (Emergence Quantum), Matt McFarlane (FNDN) and Cloë Stanbridge (Airtree).

The episode

James made this one for two reasons. Putting a guest's episode out once feels like a disservice when the content was that good. And one theme kept surfacing across all eight conversations: nobody can price the work anymore. This is the first of three mashups cut from the first eight guests. Nathan Hill from AWS, Claudia Barriga-Larriviere, Cloë Stanbridge from Airtree, Adam Witanowski and Matt McFarlane, from episodes 3 through 8, on what an AI-augmented technology professional is actually worth.

What comes out is a state of play on AI-era pay in Australia. Why the gap with the US is structural, why almost nobody measures the productivity they are already paying for, what happens to the payroll line when ten people run five thousand agents, and why the cheapest move in the whole budget discussion is the raise nobody asked for.

What we get into

  • 01The question nobody can answer. James put it to Nathan Hill in episode 3: "I used to be called a principal software engineer. I was paid $200,000 a year. I'm now managing a team of agents. My productivity is 10x. What should I be paid?" Nathan's first response was "Aren't you in the recruitment business?" Then: we can't price it until we can measure it.
  • 02What the market actually pays. Adam Witanowski finished a nine-company process with seven offers. Senior AI roles here pay around $220k. The same work in the US was landing at $450k to $500k converted. What an Australian company needs to pay to be in that conversation: three to five hundred, "and that might feel ridiculous for a lot of companies".
  • 03Whether the productivity is real. Claudia Barriga-Larriviere, on her own clients: "are they more productive, or are they just faster? I just don't know if it's the same thing."
  • 04When the big cheque is worth it. Cloë Stanbridge has watched both versions run inside Airtree's portfolio. Her line: "don't hire someone who's very expensive just because that's what they were getting paid in Big Tech."
  • 05Tokens are eating the people budget. Matt McFarlane on where that cost lands, why leaderboards reward consumption instead of value, and whose budget line an agent sits on.
  • 06Replacement value, and the raise nobody asked for. The cheapest way to keep the person you cannot afford to lose is to get ahead of the market before a recruiter does.

Lines worth keeping

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I'm now managing a team of agents. My productivity is 10x. What should I be paid?

James MacDonald

Are they more productive, or are they just faster? I just don't know if it's the same thing.

Claudia Barriga-Larriviere

Three to five hundred, and that might feel ridiculous for a lot of companies.

Adam Witanowski

Don't hire someone who's very expensive just because that's what they were getting paid in Big Tech.

Cloë Stanbridge

Why it matters

AI changed what one person can produce and pay has not caught up. Five operators put real numbers on what an AI-augmented tech professional is worth in Australia, and what it costs to be in the conversation at all.

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